Fury wurrior
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last edited by JallyCharacter stuff
Human Warrior, 100 ragee, played 13 daysYour age
28Your nationality, as well as country you currently live in (if different) and timezone
SuomiCurrent spec and are you comfortable respeccing to whatever the guild may want (which may be very unorthodox stuff - possibly not working in PvP and grinding/5mans as well as regular specs)
Kaikki käy, pääasiassa fury raidatessa - riippuen matsista
Your current gear and even more importantly, which upgrades are you most seeking in both 5 man and raid content
Gearia on tällä hetkellä yhtä paljon kuin on pelattukin - Dalrendit löytyy, bis trinksut (hoj ja blackand's breadth), Omokin beltti, Wyrmthallakin hansikkaat, mutta muuten geari on kuraa. Imperial 4 setin bonarilla menty, kunnes saan uutta päälle pantavaa - antaa markkina-arvoltaan suhteellisen hyvin apta. Seuraavaksi haen ilman muuta joko Rendin tai Unforgivenin silmälappusta - Lionheart helmiin kun ei ole varaa. Isoin uppi tällä hetkellä headin rinalla olisi truestrike shoulderit. Yksi vaihtoehto on craftauttaa Devilsaur hansikkaat sekä housut, jotta pääsisi lähemmäs tuota soft hit cappia, joka lojuu mitä ilmeisimmin myös tässä vaiheessa 8%. Edgemaster's Handguardit taitaa olla humanille parhaimmat hansikkaat raidbosseihin (glancing blow), koska weapon ratingihan on iha ylivoimainen statti pelissä, minkä takia se loppujen lopuksi saikin removee. Bracut Rendiltä. Maraudonin Princessan ringiä olen koittanut farmata tuloksetta - tylsä mesta, tympii. Toiseen slottiin Av exalted rinkula. Chestiksi Deathdealer breastplate BRDsta. Drakkisathin beltti odottelemassa jemmassa seuraavaa patchia, jonka yhteydessä sitä buffataan pre raid bis -verran (saa mm. hittia). Pre raid nekkejä ei taida oikeen mitään varteenotettavaa, joten toivotaa hyvää rollia Onyxia q-itemiin - tällä hetkellä päällä nälkäkuolemalta juuri säästynyt av rare nekki.Raidikamaa:
Ringit: Mcsta guick striking/band of accuria. Neck: Onyxialta, Trinksut: ei tarvitse vaihtaa, cloak: Azu, bracut: Mc random droppi, gloves: Ihanat kelta/punaiset, aseet: MH deathbringer ja OH core hound tooth/jos tykkää hitaasta 2x deathbringerit, waist: onslaught (pysyy päällä Aq40 asti), headi: lionheart/ Tuliherran liekehtivä pikari kelpaa myös ensihätään.Enchuina tietenkin tupla crusat, str enchut ja popoihin run speed. Elixirina toimii mongoose.
Main stattina huorataan tottakai furyna hittia aina kun saa about 8% asti, minkä jälkeen str/crittia (vaihtoehtoja ei tosin paljon ole). Mitä kannattaa odottaa: BWLää ja Maladathin miekkaa (fury+human).Raiding quest/attunement status
Kaikki kunnossaWhen / how often are you available to raid and do 5man/PvP stuff in the guild
su/ke. Mahdollisesti myös muulloin riippuen työtilanteesta.Itsestäni:
Pelaillut wowia vanillasta asti eli nyt noin 12 vuotta. Retail raidaus loppui Blackhand HC:seen. Tänä aikana tullut pidettyä välillä kuukauden mittaisia taukoja, mutta todellisuudessa lähes kokoajan raidannut joka lisärissä. Pelannut oikeastaan aina suomikillassa nimeltä Arctica (nykyään The Arctica). Killan paras saavutus on 2x world firstia Mopissa (Garalon ja Tayak) + haastattelu manaflaskiin sekä kauheat winet niskaan syystä, että hypättiin yli muutamat pomot ennen ko. tappoja. On ollut vaiheita, jolloin opiskelut hankaloittanut pelaamista, mutta nyt valmistuttua (HTM), ei siitä tarvitse huolehtia. Töissä saattaa mennä välillä myöhään.
Parhaita matseja:
Parhaat yksittäiset raidi-instat: SWP, BWL, Naxx (aito), AQ40 (lukuunottamatta pirummoiset juoksemiset).
Haluan joinia kiltaan, koska saamani käsityksen perusteella raidiajat sopivat ja killasta löytyy sopivaa sakkia hyvään pelaamiseen sekoitettuna pieneen örveltämiseen. Lisäksi löydän vanillasta sitä aitoa tunnelmaa, jota en retailista enää saanut.
Jos kysyttävää:
W/JallyPaikalla: arkisin 17.00-xx.xx
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last edited by IstariaHeyas and thank you for this. Don't know anything about the guild you mentioned but big props to you guys for doing stuff out of the box and skipping those other bosses for this. Shame on all of those who dare to whine about it.
Anyway, as for this application: Unfortunately our non-finnish members have to put it through the google translate to possibly get something out of it, but let's put that aside for now. I'm under the impression that from the current content [vis'kag] + [brutality blade] is the best combo for human fury warriors. Let's take full advantage of the amazing racial :)
I'm sure one of our officers will do the final decision in regards to this application because he knows fury (and warriors in general) inside out. To make it easier for him I'd like you to post a link to a raiding talent spec as well. Not that I question your ability to play or anything like that, but that sort of thing says a lot about you as a player to someone with an eye for these thing.
Currently on a train, getting back from aboard and the Internet is sketchy, so I'm gonna have to look at the video links later.
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last edited by liekkiHey,
First of all, we could possibly use another fury warrior although we have quite a few. That being said you would have to be quite dedicated and be able to show up for most raids as we have no need for another ~50% attendance warrior.
Your gear, according to RealmPlayers from a couple days ago, is quite crap indeed. You have quite a bunch of formidable upgrades from all over the place.
Few things about your todo list though:
- According to my calculations the Devilsaur set outweighs [Edgemaster's Handguards] + any leg piece available up until [Titanic Leggings] so you should work towards getting that set instead for now
- You should also start working toward [Lionheart Helm] as it's the best helm for DPS in the game (all of our five DPS warriors have it)
- [Vis'kag the Bloodletter] + [Brutality Blade] indeed superior for humans
Rest of the stuff that you are missing is not such a big deal if you have time to run the instances to get them and with the guild's help you'd be decked out in no time but the question is can we be assured that you'll be active enough for it to be worth it.
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last edited bywhat is he saying???? :( ripperoni no ingelsi si mexico
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last edited by@Böb said:
what is he saying???? :( ripperoni no ingelsi si mexico
He says he wants to join teh guild and that he knows how to paly.
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last edited bySorry for the language i used. Didnt mean to upset anyone. Link for the spec: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#LhhxohbZVVhmxxoVo
First, i prefered 2xdeathbringers over the Viskag+Brutality -combo you linked just because one would generate 1 extra attack with the same speed weapons. As far as i know, this is still legit mechanic in this game. Core tooth is an option if you prefer to get fury more consistently, so it's also pretty much the choice of which playing style you like the most - the difference aint so big eventough i dont have any vanilla spreadsheets and i think you dont have either. That is just my guess. Its also pretty much impossible calculate the exact dmg output for the weapon rating but its generally the best stat against raid bosses.
Second i didnt mean to link all the random bis items i could get, i was honest about what might be possible me to get also. I think i just tried to be too creative in that occasion and find the items which are more plausible me to get. Also i tried to describe the items with my own words, not by linking the whole pre raid bis gear even though there arent much choice. Im familiar with the pieces which Liekki linked, appreciated. The one of the biggest reasons for applying is also that i cant get pre raid bis gear with my guild cause its starving and too few lvl 60 peeps. For instance our guild leader just left yesterday.
Last I just want to know from you, is this some guide how to farm the best gear step by step or is there any trials in where you could actually see how the guy plays? Like, i would consider it to be pretty efficient to find good players cause you can worry about the gear for any other time (it's pretty much the plan of the game also). I see different geared people applying and i didnt see any mention, you need to be pre raid bis -geared for the guild.
I heard you guy raid on Wednesday and Sundays and i dont see any attendance problems for that. But to be honest, if i got something important matters (like if my grandmother is dying and asking me to see her), i will pass the raid but i will always inform.
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last edited by IstariaOK!
First of, I think the spec is quite wrong on so many levels. First of all, 5/5 battleshout is absolutely mandatory because we care about raid dps a lot and as a warrior, one of the biggest things that is unique to you is your battleshout. Secondly, 2/2 improved overpower is so good for activating that flurry. 1/2 isn't quite going to cut it. I have never played a warrior though but I'm pretty sure this is how it goes.
[deathbringer] x2 is a pretty ace combo for non-humans, but our calculations show that it's not gonna cut it for humans. No offence intended, but I think it is actually pretty funny that you would assume that a guild called THEORYCRAFT does not have a spreadsheet :D It's right though, we don't. We have something better:
So yes, it is very possible to calculate exact damage as long as you know how the mechanics work. This way you don't have to guess what is the best item for you in any given situation (the tool allows you to test with different items and what sort of impact these changes have).
Your comment about farming stuff with us raises some concerns as well. We do indeed like to help our people out and don't care about items as much as just about every other guild out there. Back in the day we recruited people in Hellfire Peninsula greens and decked them in full T6 in no time if we thought they were worth that effort. However, right now, all our current dps warriors are very decked out, so you would need to overcome the lack of gear with some other positive traits such as skill, good attitude and top notch attendance.
You definitely don't need preraid BiS gear to join our guild and we will always rate skills higher than gear. I still rate attitude even higher than skill, and we're definitely not the right kind of guild for people who are full of themselves or think that they are somehow unique. This game is pretty damn simple, afterall. There are plenty of try-hard guilds out there for those people who have a giant ego. If you can be a humble but skilled player who shows up and who plays for not just himself but the guild and the team, we can keep talking.
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last edited by JallyNot familiar how the weapon skill is calculated in the sheets cause its used to be a really sketchy one, interesting. Just to notice that if you put some item on the table which has maximum 2% chance to hit, you get also an item which has +7 weapon skill rating so overall items which have weapon skills are more precious in that perspective. You drove the spreadsheet against raid bosses? I assume so but just checking.
"First of, I think the spec is quite wrong on so many levels". Like i said, i havent raided in my current char so my spec aint pimped for raiding either. You pretty much have to choose between those 3 talents where you put talents point to - overpower, cleave and battleshout. Cleave gives you more aoe dmg which is never bad in parties. This is my spec at the moment. I think i should have linked the raid spec after all.
Last, i find myself very humble and after long working hours, im not just writing for fun or trying to be priceless. This game aint hard like you said. Im fine with the fact if you are having too many warriors in the guild already and if im not the right person, its ok. Life goes on and I have to find another guild.
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last edited by IstariaThat thing is actually a simulator. It will always give slightly different results (even after 720 HOURS of combat). Since weapon skill does almost nothing at all vs mobs that are not level 63, it would be pointless to run it for such. It also states target mob level and all the stats in the picture. Furthermore, you can specify the level of the target for it in case you are building a trash killing/instance kit (which is actually a pretty good idea and every dps guy should have that).
For example, if you have both [vis'kag] and [deathbringer] like many of our human warriors do, the right setup is to swap them around whenever the mob is not 63. The DPS increase is double digits assuming you remember to put the right weapon in the right hand when it matters. Consequently, items like [mugger's belt], [edgemaster's] are terrible for level 62 and below, meaning they should never be used in 5 mans etc.
Going even further, as your gear gets better and better, the importance of weapon skill diminishes as you will be able to queue in more heroic strikes and less and less of your damage is from your white main hand attacks. Thus, there will never be a constant value for any of these stats, as everything affects everything.
Maybe I didn't specify it well enough but yeah, my intention was to find out if you know the warrior mechanics well enough to construct a proper raid spec for yourself. We'll be sure to discuss this with our officers and perhaps throw you in a test 5 man or raid somewhere. It is possible that we will need a fury warrior still and perhaps you could be the one.
All in all, I am sensing a TINY BIT of this "I come from retail so all this stuff is beyond me and pretty easy" kind of attitude. Please correct me if I am wrong about that. You should just not assume we don't know what we are doing :P we do. We're vanilla fanboys, afterall. Some of our officers (including myself) spend more time thinking about mechanics and stuff than actually playing the game. This is the game for us :) - Variola even jokingly said after writing that simulator that the game is now over, no need to play the actual game since we got this.
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last edited byOnly now got home and could watch those videos. Illidan brought back a lot of memories! You guys were quite BALLSY with how close you left some of your people but you always got your fiends(?) down in time :)
And no idea what the hell was happening in that other one but at least there was a lot of it :D
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last edited bySorry for the late answer. Loving the fact i dont need to wake up early.
"Going even further, as your gear gets better and better, the importance of weapon skill diminishes as you will be able to queue in more heroic strikes and less and less of your damage is from your white main hand attacks. Thus, there will never be a constant value for any of these stats, as everything affects everything."
True but you can queue heroic strike only if you can keep the rage coming by crits and that's the very reason to acquire weapon skill/hit. The thing is that weapon skill doesn't just give you chance to hit (or actually decreases your chance to miss), it also gives you chance to crit even after you being soft hit capped.
Special attacking a raid boss (level 63 and 315 defense) with the gear that gives you 0% hit and 25% critical strike gives you 21.35% critical strikes. If you did Increase your chance to hit to 10%, the results would be 23.6% critical strikes. So the the most efficient way to keep spamming your heroic strike is still to have weapon skill/hit not just crit cause it's a inefficient value without the 10% hit.
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